The big problem with house paint is that the color bits (very simple description) are much bigger than what we're used to in hobby paints. I've had really great results using alcohol as an acrylic thinner for paints from Tamiya, Gunze Sangyo (Aqueous/Mr.Hobby), Vallejo, Italeri, and Akan (don't try this with Testors Acryl, it took some time to clean the resulting goo from my airbrush). I made up a mixture of water and alcohol using the proportions above, then added around 10 ml of Flow Improver and 10 ml of Fluid Retarder for this test batch. And as you can see from these illustrations, just thinning an opaque paint will not completely overcome the negative flow characteristics of a larger particle size. If you thinned out yellow paint with blue Windex, would it still be yellow? The paint responded extremely well out of my airbrush. 109. gonzalogd. Metallic Acrylic Paint You can airbrush with metallic acrylic paints, as long as you use one of the above methods to thin out the paint. By the end of the guide, you should be completely informed and prepared to thin out acrylic paint for airbrush, miniatures, spray guns, pouring and more! I've seen a couple things online that say use windex as it's really cheap and thins it well. Flow improver keeps paint from drying up and collecting inside your airbrush as you're spraying, especially during longer airbrush sessions. I did try a few shots of acrylics straight out of their bottles to see the difference in performance. If Windex worked good to thin your paints for airbrushing, then you may be tempted to use blue Windex as the thinner (up to 50% volume or more) for these applications too. That's when I saw this YouTube video from Genessis Models in the UK. Using alcohol was okay when I was single, but using alcohol today will get some less-than-polite feedback from my wife. Post Dec 20, 2009 #1 2009-12-20T14:53. Having the right frequency of color is very critical for them to nebulize efficiently, which is the principle on which an airbrush works. Apr 09, 2004, 12:59 PM #2; ScYcS. Anyway, the OP isn't crazy. I did try a few shots of acrylics straight out of their bottles to see the difference in performance. It has no color and the bottle was under $2 at Wallyworld. The best part is that you can adjust the proportions of each of the four ingredients until you find that perfect mix. 06-02-2012, 12:38 AM #2. The Windex retards the setting of the "Future" and allows it to flow better, giving you a increased chance for a smooth, glossy finish. When a couple of drops slowly drip off the brush it's at the right consistency - approximately like skim milk. If you thinned out yellow paint with blue Windex, would it still be yellow? I have tried to thin model master acrylic paints with alcohol and water, however, the results were not suitable for airbrushing. Consistancy of slightly thick milk. Celebrating 21 years of hobby news and reviews. It is an acrylic fluid that dries glossy and pretty hard. Stir the paint and thinner with an old brush. Clear Windex, I didn't know they made the stuff. The paint on display here isn’t even paint – it’s Mr. Finishing Surfacer 1500. Army Doc, the mix you posted contains stuff that is already in most airbrush paints as flow enhancer and surfactant. Dieser Pinnwand folgen 333 Nutzer auf Pinterest. I usually dump paint from the stock bottle to a smaller paint bottle that matches the air brush, no more than 1/2 to 3/4 full. ScYcS. Notice: The appearance of U.S. Air Force, U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S. Marine Corps, U.S. Coast Guard, Department of Defense, or NASA imagery or art does not constitute an endorsement nor is Cybermodeler Online affiliated with these organizations. I guess you can tell I'm not the one who does the food shopping in my house. Paints will supposedly dry slower using the airbrush mediums compared with alcohol. There I was one sleepless night cruising through YouTube videos and I happened across a subject that caught my eye - making your own acrylic thinner. Sep 3, 2012 - This video shows my method for thinning Vallejo acrylic paint with Windex for use in an Airbrush. It should work good. Quote; Link to post Share on other sites. The pigment particles in acrylic craft paints aren't as fine as those in acrylic airbrush paint and have the potential to clog an airbrush. I have found that a drop or two of Windex in the AB cup works wonders when applying "Future". Keeping everything "wet" on the inside also makes it straightforward and easy to clean your airbrush with Windex or airbrush thinner when you're done. Step 1 – Remove the excess paint. If you use esoteric airbrush paint with special formulation, something more may be needed or helpful. The Flow Improver cost about $12 USD for 250 ml and the Fluid Retarder about $10 USD for 118 ml. Just a quick question: When thinning acrylic craft store type paints with Windex or windshield washer fluid, does the blue color effect the final color of the thinned out paint? No harm, no foul. Air and water propel the paint. Distilled water doesn't have the contaminants/additives found in tap water or well water. The binder is the actual film forming component of paint. It gets much worse when you move to making your own stains or "Pollyscale" equivalent paint by ultra-thinning craft paints. Because it's widely available, cheap and does the job perfectly thinning acylic paint. It worked well also but the ease of just putting a couple of squirts of window cleaner in is very appealing. Without thinning, clogging occurs. It is the only component that must be present. Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne NC Hey guys, I'm just starting airbrushing and I was wondering how I could make some cheap thinner to use with my airbrush paints. to remove ads between posts. It seems like that'd be an issue adding it to paint. Water breaks down the binder in acrylic, thinning the paint so that it looks like watercolor and allows it to sink into the surface, resulting in a matte finish. And no, the blue tint will not affect the color of the paint. There was indeed a difference! There was indeed a difference! The rubbing alcohol should easily be found in most crafts stores and Walmart. QuietiManes. Windex would be the better solution in your case. Acrylic medium minimizes the need for the addition of water and allows the paint to sit on top of the surface, maintaining a rich, glossy appearance. It is 80% water and can be thinned with anything water soluble. He recommends an interesting mixture that merited a test. Windex contains alcohol though. How about dishwasher rinse aid? When thinning your acrylic paint, use a 50:50 mixture of Windex or rubbing alcohol to acrylic paint, and then spray it through the airbrush. I've discussed this with some knowledgeable folks who thin their acrylics with water (or windshield washer fluid). Just a quick question: When thinning acrylic craft store type paints with Windex or windshield washer fluid, does the blue color effect the final color of the thinned out paint? View Profile View Forum Posts View Gallery View Favorites Private Message View Blog Entries View Articles Brushlicker Join Date Mar 2003 Location Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts 1,400 Rep Power 19. The paint was rather thick and it kept clogging the airbrush tip. Frank. It is an acrylic coating that dries hard and has the nice feature that it can be re-desolved by a solution of ammonia. Thinning acrylic paint for airbrushing is essential, but you should understand that the results might not be quite as nice as the results achieved with special acrylic airbrush paints. 109. Thanks. Help: thinning model master acrylics. Paint or heavily thinned Gunze. Windshield washer fluid (blue IS also used if clear can't be obtained) is a very commonly used thinner on the model car and plane forums. 99.9% Isopropyl Alchohol can be found for around $3 USD/pint (473 ml). A very tiny bit more of a challenge than Mr. Let’s say I’ve just finished an airbrush session at it’s time to clean up. I'm using Vallejo game color paints if that matters. Acrylic paints dry quickly, are easy to clean and have no odors. The resulting thinner mixture smells about the same as Tamiya's thinner and while you'll still want to use some ventilation, this thinner is far more family friendly than pure alcohol and more effective (for me at least) than pure water. So even though plenty of people are using the windowlene/windex for thinning paint I'll probably reserve it for cleaning the brush making sure I rinse out with water well. Future has several uses: Add to paint to improve adhesion; Add to paint to add satin sheen such as Windex is a great brush cleaner for when you hand paint acrylics. Water is a possibility. The gentleman in the video recommended a mix of 33% alcohol to 67% distilled water. Weitere Ideen zu airbrush, kunstarten, augenzeichnung. Copyright © 2021 TacAir Publications, LLC. Posted June 20, 2013. 17.07.2020 - Entdecke die Pinnwand „Airbrush video“ von Ailenrok. Let’s get into the guide! Thinning or mixing acrylic paint takes a lot of tries before getting the right density. Jimsky Sign up now. I've blown Rustolleum Painters Touch (water based) through my airbrush after thinning with Windex. Spray a few full cups of Windex through your brush until no color is coming out. Using Createx, Smith Wildlife, Polytranspar, and Van Dykes acrylics, I haven't felt the need. The few times I've tried water were enough to keep me on the alcohol path (sounds like W.C. Fields, doesn't it?). I just tried windex or something like it for the first time and it worked well. The paint responded extremely well out of my airbrush. Exterior house paint is really pretty thick. Use a 1:1 ratio and mix your rubbing alcohol and paint, then spray with the airbrush. Alcohol makes the paint dry much faster and stick better to the foam (doesn't tear as much as alcohol). How to Thin Out Acrylic Paint. For years I used Isopropyl Alcohol (99%) that you can find inexpensively in drug stores, but this required serious ventilation as the alcohol vapor can get absorbed quickly into your bloodstream as you breath it (not good). IMO. MitchellTyner. This method of thinning acrylic craft paint for airbrushing is very effective and affordable, as it only costs about 77 cents a bottle. If it's too thick the air brush will let you know. Some important tips to remember on how to thin acrylic paint for airbrush Windex, have been discussed below. Windex or windshield wiper fluid, either one will work well. I hope that the video's may have shed a little light on some of the ways to use them are. Contrast this with a 250 ml bottle of Tamiya X20A thinner for almost $9.00 USD. The final ingredient is Acrylic Fluid Retarder which slows down the drying time of acrylics and keeps your paint in fluid form when it hits the model and doesn't dry at the airbrush tip or in the air enroute to the model. In the past I've used water with isopropol alchohol to thin acrylics. You’ll know the exact steps you need to follow to get it done right – and know a couple of things to look out for and avoid along the way. The following errors occurred with your submission. Some swear by it and others prefer alcohol. Airbrush acrylic paint is the most commonly used medium preferred by artists. The amount of water you add depends on the desired effect and the surface. I tried to find the Acrylic Flow Improver and Fluid Retarder at the local art supply stores but I wound up ordering them from Amazon. I used windex clear. Mixing the right consistency is vital for the airbrush and paint to work together. Could that work too? Ulises Victoria. Evening I have been trying to spray for the first time AK paints, on this time the rust paint for tracks and have had major problems . Thinning Acrylic Paint with Windex? Then use acrylic thinner or, distilled water, adding a few drops at a time and stir. Ulises Victoria. The Windex doesn't thin the acrylics, it dissolves them and running Windex through the airbrush doesn't leave any foul smells (but if your spouse does ask about the smell, tell her you're cleaning your room). Is this a 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding' kind of thing? I used a 500 ml bottle for my mixture and calculating the costs of materials, it cost about $2.65 USD to mix 500 ml and I have ample fluids to make more batches. The third ingredient is a few drops of Acrylic Flow Improver to remove surface tension of the fluid (you might have heard of folks using a drop of dish soap for the same purpose). Try Liquitx airbrush medium for thinning the paint. Copyright © document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) Website Acquisitions Inc. All rights reserved. So. gonzalogd. Subject: Thinning airbrush paint. I use 99.9% Isopropyl Alcohol as the lesser strength alcohols are not as effective (according to the folks that taught me the alcohol approach years ago) and is likewise recommended in the video. A quick mid-use cleaning method I make use of. You can airbrush it fairly well, but it requires either Windex or an ammonia-based windshield-washer fluid to thin it. For thinning acrylic craft paint for airbrushing, you can use rubbing alcohol or try some Windex. Lift the brush out of the paint. So what about costs? If it is not thinned, it may create an orange peel effect on the model. 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